Holmes on Homes

[m beezo]

Originally Posted by Bluewoodrock

I doubt it's that high for extreme home makeover- My company was involved with one of these projects several years ago- they pay zero for labor and materials, it's all "volunteer". Their only real costs are for the production of the show itself. And networks love reality shows because the production costs associated with them are lower than scripted dramas and comedies, where you have to pay all those actors and writers.

I think they should pay the help, the show must make money since it's still on he air. The producers like to tell you about how much exposure you'll get, and how much they're helping you out by letting you be on their show. They should also do better work. Really the work that's being done borders on criminal based on what I saw- pure butchery with multiple code violations.

Would you care to elaborate any on that issue of doing better work? I have often about that issue. How they can drywall one day and then be painting the next. I have heard that the inspectors are on site full time but at the speed they move I have wondered if everything really gets inspected or if they are pressured to pass work because of time issues.

As far as exposure for your company I too have wondered about that. I know as the credits roll they are often so quick that you cannot see who is on the show or else the network shrinks it down so they can show you an advertisement for the next show. If the name is mentioned during air time I would have to be listening for it or know who it is to hear it. I do not recall jobsite signs but was thinking maybe they are allowed somewhere on site to give out to folks.

So did you get any exposure from being on the show? Get to put it on your website, on your letter head, company brochures? And how is that going? Does not sound like you really saw an uptick in business because of it.

[Mueller Construction]

Originally Posted by Bluewoodrock

I doubt it's that high for extreme home makeover

If there is no money then what draws people like Donald Trump, Ozzie Osborne, Gene Simons, and Bruce Jenner to reality TV? Heck it even made a guy fake his son in a balloon for a crack at it. I doubt they could get volunteers to donate a house a week.

[dmwyatt]

Originally Posted by Adam444

Me too. I kind of lost interest when they were doing that place on Nantucket. $500k worth of improvements to a $250k home. To me it at had reached the point where what they were doing was so out of the realm of what "ordinary" folks might do that I no longer found it appealing. That's not to say that some of the stuff they were (and are) doing isn't interesting.

Budget? Seems the sky is the limit. I would imagine a lot of stuff is donated or supplied at a significant discount.

Their project this year seems much more applicable to "real-life" jobs than some other recent seasons.

[Overbuilders]

Reality shows make money - if they don't, they get cancelled. Regarding only the fix-'em-up and DIY shows, over the air networks typically have a larger audience share which allows them to charge more for advertising and product placement, and garners more tax deductible donations from high profile vendors and suppliers. More revenue, larger budgets. Cable and syndicated shows...not so much.

The cable renovation show that contacted me in '06 offered my client and I a grand each, moderate face time, 'as well as a few, great memories!' Meaning I'd need to brush my teeth more than once a week. And change my underwear as often, most likely. Needless to say I didn't get the job and neither of us got the FT. And...cut!

[Bluewoodrock]

Originally Posted by Mueller Construction

If there is no money then what draws people like Donald Trump, Ozzie Osborne, Gene Simons, and Bruce Jenner to reality TV? Heck it even made a guy fake his son in a balloon for a crack at it. I doubt they could get volunteers to donate a house a week.

No doubt there is money in reality TV, but my understanding is that they do get just about everything donated on extreme home make over...

I'm willing to take wiki's word on reality TV

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extreme...:_Home_Edition

[frenchie]

Originally Posted by Mueller Construction

If there is no money then what draws people like Donald Trump, Ozzie Osborne, Gene Simons, and Bruce Jenner to reality TV? Heck it even made a guy fake his son in a balloon for a crack at it. I doubt they could get volunteers to donate a house a week.

Being famous, even just for the proverbial 15 minutes, is like a drug to a lot of people.

[Kgphoto]

So what's wrong with screws, if they are the correct ones? I mean, certainly don't use drywall screws on joist hangers, but Simpson makes strong drive screws especially for this application. I have never watched and episode of Holmes on Homes.

[frenchie]

Originally Posted by Kgphoto

So what's wrong with screws, if they are the correct ones. I mean, certainly don't use drywall screws on joist hangers, but Simpson makes strong drive screws especially for this application. I have never watched and episode of Holmes on Homes.

Strongdrives are a specced for a few (very few - a dozen, maybe?) specific bits of hardware, that are specifically designed for them.

You can't just throw them into any random hanger, as if they were nails.

You can usually tell from the model number, ending in SDS.


Anyways, Holmes was using deck screws:

http://forums.jlconline.com/forums/s...ad.php?t=41446

[Kgphoto]

Ah, well that is completely different. Never mind.

[RH-Electric]

I've watched 2 episodes of "Holmes on Homes" and wrote him off as just another blow hard who doesn't know what he's talking about. One episode he was clucking about the great kitchen he remodeled and I noticed that there was not a single counter top receptacle. On another episode he opened his moronic yap and proclaimed that electrical junction boxes always indicated substandard wiring. He's a tool, unfortunately, construction is loaded with guys like him.

[dmwyatt]

Originally Posted by RH-Electric

On another episode he opened his moronic yap and proclaimed that electrical junction boxes always indicated substandard wiring.

I've heard him say this several times.

[FramerTK]

Originally Posted by RH-Electric

On another episode he opened his moronic yap and proclaimed that electrical junction boxes always indicated substandard wiring. He's a tool, unfortunately, construction is loaded with guys like him.

Great, now everytime I have an junction box on a job, the HO will think I'm doing substandard work.

Seems like Canada is making poor quality "tools" now too!.

[Mueller Construction]

Originally Posted by RH-Electric

On another episode he opened his moronic yap and proclaimed that electrical junction boxes always indicated substandard wiring.

His explanation of why this is has to be more ridiculous than the original statement…but nobody would ever be allowed to ask him ‘on air’. Heck, the Producer probably even knows it's BS.

[dave_k]

Originally Posted by FramerTK

Great, now everytime I have an junction box on a job, the HO will think I'm doing substandard work.

Seems like Canada is making poor quality "tools" now too!.

Easy there buddy. We have some of the biggest tools in the world. Mike Holmes, Howie Mandel, Tom Flanagan, David Frum just to name a few

[frenchie]

Not sure Frum belongs on that list. I disagree with most of what he says, but at least he argues his position logically / reasonably / with a modicum of intellectual honesty.