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    Default Hurricane ties

    I'm in the process of repairing a house that had a very large Eastern white pine land on it, from Storm Sandy. It took out some of the roof and one of the skylights took a direct hit. The occupant made it out unscathed, but I can imagine she'll never forget that sound.

    Anyhow: We are replacing some 2x10 rafters that were snapped like twigs.

    ? Should I install hurricane clips or these fasten master/Timberlok screws?

    ? Will the inspector want to see the whole wall, even the undamaged part done this way? Even though we can't get to it all? b/c of existing sheetrock?

    Many thanks for your input.

    I don't want to have more than one inspection,can't afford him having to come twice...
    Thanks again!!

    JON

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    Not enough information given. See the Table at http://publicecodes.cyberregs.com/ic...?bu2=undefined (2009 IRC) for connection requirements.
    Not sure how you expect to get by with 1 inspection. I would think that a framing inspection plus a final at the very least.

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    Everywhere is different - why not just call and ask what their expectations are. Every time I've discussed these issues up front - the results have been much smoother.
    “Racism is man's gravest threat to man - the maximum of hatred for a minimum of reason.”
    Abraham J. Heschel (Jewish theologian and philosopher, 1907-1972)

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    Default Re: Hurricane ties

    I agree with both posts-not enough info and why not just call the inspector?
    As far as not wanting more than one inspection that sounds a little fishy or off to me. I do not know you or the area you work in but every insurance job I have ever done has had to have multiple inspections. Some were by the city some by the insurance company. Just something you had to do, there was not choice.
    And the jobs I did one of the big reasons for inspections was that the codes had changed and even tho it was not part of the original house that had stood for 50 years, once things were opened up everything we could see had to be brought up to date. Which is only right and smart. The city and the insurance company do not want to approve something that is going to fail after putting money and time into it.

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    Default Re: Hurricane ties

    Quote Originally Posted by m beezo View Post
    I agree with both posts-not enough info and why not just call the inspector?
    As far as not wanting more than one inspection that sounds a little fishy or off to me. I do not know you or the area you work in but every insurance job I have ever done has had to have multiple inspections. Some were by the city some by the insurance company. Just something you had to do, there was not choice.
    And the jobs I did one of the big reasons for inspections was that the codes had changed and even tho it was not part of the original house that had stood for 50 years, once things were opened up everything we could see had to be brought up to date. Which is only right and smart. The city and the insurance company do not want to approve something that is going to fail after putting money and time into it.
    The reason I don't want two inspections, is they want to see the framing. They signed off on it. This is a small job, I replaced 5 or 6 rafters a couple skylights and the roof. The sequence then calls for an insulation inspection. Then a final. All i wanted him to do was say, go ahead, insulate and you can drywall, too. The storm has put this customer out of her home for over a month now. The town is very slow and finnicky about issuing permits and then scheduling them can really add time to the job. Being that it's a vaulted ceiling, we are doing a baffle/proper vent. As for hurricane clips, we did them and we are set. Hopefully this is enough information for you. But I'm sorry I even bothered to ask. Saying I'm being sketchy is shortsighted and unfairly assuming. This site has some real building cops on it and it's no wonder the usership has plummeted.
    Good day.

    JOn Nelson

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    Default Re: Hurricane ties

    JNC hang around. Sometimes things get misconstrued around here. You had a good question for a unique situation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JNComplete View Post
    But I'm sorry I even bothered to ask. Saying I'm being sketchy is shortsighted and unfairly assuming. This site has some real building cops on it and it's no wonder the usership has plummeted.
    Good day.

    JOn Nelson
    Dude, relax. Nobody called you sketchy. Nobody called you anything, actually. People asked for more information, and questioned your desire for "one inspection".

    We all get stressed out, take a couple deep breaths, man. Life is too short.

    kevin

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    Default Re: Hurricane ties

    Howdy, got me wondering have you seen damage to any hip roofs from Sandy? I have not worked a hurricane for 12 years an wonder if as a engineering study done after Hurricane Andrew resulted in similar outcomes. That study found -properly vented - undamaged hip roofs when all other roofs in the area were destroyed along with most of the homes due to the roofs failures. The initial report summarized the hips resistance to the winds was a simple but very effective method.
    Last edited by Albion; 12-11-2012 at 10:14 AM. Reason: better reading

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