Trim Detail at Toilet Supply Line

[Allan Edwards]

I’m sure you are working with what’s there, but I try to avoid that detail altogether, where the base turns up to accommodate the supply line and escutcheon. The very first selection I require on a new home are plumbing fixtures, my vendor immediately knows to send us the cut sheets, typically a 60-70 page document showing the profile and detail of every fixture. We then email them to the plumber, who is instructed in his specs to rough in the WC so that a 7” base will clear the supply line and escutcheon.

[dixonpeer]

I’m sure you are working with what’s there, but I try to avoid that detail altogether, where the base turns up to accommodate the supply line and escutcheon. The very first selection I require on a new home are plumbing fixtures, my vendor immediately knows to send us the cut sheets, typically a 60-70 page document showing the profile and detail of every fixture. We then email them to the plumber, who is instructed in his specs to rough in the WC so that a 7” base will clear the supply line and escutcheon.

Well, the cut sheets on plumbing fixtures don't really have much to do with the height of the water supply in my experience. I haven't built any 30,000 sqft mansions though as my market seems to cap out at about 6,000 sqft. I find the method put forth in the start of this thread to be quite attractive. I congratulate anyone who can deal with a project that has 60 to 70 pages of cut sheets just for plumbing fixtures. I can't even imagine dealing with all the other facets of a job of that magnitude like lighting fixtures, home theaters, spas, multiple bathrooms and lavatories, and so on. In my case, often times there has been no final decision about these things. We take clients around to see what's available and make choices after the house has been roughed (we've done a lot of spec homes in NJ)

[David Meiland]

Both of my plumbers ask about the height of the base before they rough the toilet valve. If it's really tall base, sometimes we put the escutcheon on it, but usually it's a few inches above the top of the base.

[Lavrans]

Well, the cut sheets on plumbing fixtures don't really have much to do with the height of the water supply in my experience.... I congratulate anyone who can deal with a project that has 60 to 70 pages of cut sheets...

In my case, often times there has been no final decision about these things. We take clients around to see what's available and make choices after the house has been roughed (we've done a lot of spec homes in NJ)

They don't have much to do with the supply lines, but can.

Really, the best way to get all the details worked out is to have all the trades meet before the place gets built. What you're looking for is the expert in each field to get the chance to bring up what they see as best practices- it's pretty basic project management that just hasn't made its way to the general field. The plumber gets to point out where the best spots for fixtures, drains, etc., should go. They can make their peace with the electrician and the HVAC co before there is a bunch of framing to cut out of the way. The finish carpenter gets to have his say about getting fixtures set so they will work with trim. Ditto the cabinet co, who also gets to make some decisions with the tile co on layout, and that gets the info to the plumber, who can make his marks so the foundation is built to accommodate his best practices.

Works for any size building. Bigger the building the more time it takes, but a day of planning at the beginning easily cuts a week off a build or good size remodel. Bigger the project, the more time gets saved.

[mahogany]

much agree with dixonpeers and lavrans. most of my projects have a 3" binders with all the job specs, tear sheets, product orders, sub bids like granite and glass(mirrors/showers), tile layout etc. and i still feel its incomplete at times. Imagine having to make calls on where to place supply/services without knowing what they are going to service.

[markhoni]

Try working on a VA hospital project with a spec book that has thousands of pages detailing every part that goes into the building. Right down to the thumb tacks in the bulletin boards. With brands and model numbers listed. Then the contractor has to submit his materials and hardware to the VA's contracting officer and receive an approval for the items that are already stated in the spec book. And you better make sure that everything you use is made in the USA, unless you can document that there is no domestic manufacturer for the product you have to use.