bad news for bronco fans

[Johnson]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...al-source-says

Manning will probably get hurt by mid season and be out. Besides, if Manning is so good and worth the money, the Colts would still have benefitted even though he's on the sideline. This really indicates that Manning doesn't waste his time to mentor, or inspire teammates. Colts were the worst team in the NFL last year. Manning is about Manning. Elway is really stupid! Elway's ego made him feel embarrassed to have Tebow. Tebow will go to some other team and make them a lot of money, and be a respectable opponent, not because Tebow is superior, but because Tebow will make a team a real team. Tebow will make those around him be better than they normally would be, just like he did in Denver.

[parkwest]

Doesn't make any sense to trade a young QB for an old QB with a career ending injury! I understand Peyton has fused cervical vertebra and I can't imagine that being a good thing when he gets hit by a 300# pass rusher.

Can't wait to see how this drama unfolds. Talk about reality TV...

[jimAKAblue]

There are many football pundits that think no one will trade for Tebow. Instead, they think he will be released outright. Others think he will be only worth a 5th, 6th ot 7th round draft choice in a trade. They base their opinions on his poor passing early in the games.

I'm of the opinion that he's an anomaly in the pro game. And that's not a good thing. In a league that has changed the rules and is making the wide receiver the most important scoring position, does it really make sense to run a spread offense?

I have nothing against Tim Tebow: I just don't see him as anything I'd want for my pro team. I'm happy with my Matt Stafford to Calvin Johnson offense.

[jimAKAblue]

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/77...al-source-says

Elway is really stupid! Elway's ego made him feel embarrassed to have Tebow.

I don't agree with that at all.

John Elway was an intelligent passing QB. It's in his DNA. Tebow's style just doesn't fit into John Elways mindset. As the GM, if you don't believe in the system you are forced to deploy, it kind of trumps everything you are doing, or will be doing, to improve the team. It just won't work. Birds of a feather have to flock together.

[parkwest]

Football is definitely not what it used to be. I think they need to redo some of the rules, especially the one where defenses can't touch the receiver until he catches the ball in the end zone.

And I think you should be able to tackle a guy by pulling him down from behind by his hair sticking out of his helmet. lol

Are the NFL teams trying to outscore the NBA?

[jimAKAblue]

Pro football will always be tweaking their game: as it should. Right now the pendulum has swung too far in favor of the receivers but that can easily be adjusted in the referee "points of emphasis" meetings this summer.

I think the recent attempts to add some level of safety to the game is necessary although frustrating. The athletes are so big, so fast and can hit so hard now that something has to be done. Lets hope they don't make the linebackers where giant balloons on their heads and shoulders to soften the blows to the offense.

The hair thing peeves me because Detroit has been victimized by bad calls. I'm also tired of the bad calls against Suh. Some of his stuff has been properly called but others is just nonsense.

[parkwest]

What would happen if the NFL had substitution rules like MLB? Would that reduce injuries by eliminating the 350# 'ers who come in on passing downs only with the intent to squish the QB? Would it stop the bulking up if the players had to play the whole game?

[Dick Seibert]

What would happen if the NFL had substitution rules like MLB? Would that reduce injuries by eliminating the 350# 'ers who come in on passing downs only with the intent to squish the QB? Would it stop the bulking up if the players had to play the whole game?

Park:

That's the way it was when I played football, we played both offense and defense for 60 minutes, if you went out you couldn't come back. We also wore leather helmets, the plastic ones came out when I was playing, we went after the sissys wearing them and tried to take them out, when face guards were attached we could pull them down by them.

[dgbldr]

Yup, Dick is right. The rules should be more like rugby. Now that's a real man's game :)

[MarkMc]

It really sucked when you couldn't pull'em down by their earlobes any more. The obvious solution of course is to expand the field relative to player size and time in game. That would be a boon to construction as well; just think of all the new stadiums. New rules create new jobs. Win win.

[Johnson]

I don't agree with that at all.

John Elway was an intelligent passing QB. It's in his DNA. Tebow's style just doesn't fit into John Elways mindset. As the GM, if you don't believe in the system you are forced to deploy, it kind of trumps everything you are doing, or will be doing, to improve the team. It just won't work. Birds of a feather have to flock together.

Well, I've read a lot of comments by Bronco fans. Perhaps they formed my thinking too much. Besides, I know that good players don't always make good coaches. That goes for any sport.

[jimAKAblue]

What would happen if the NFL had substitution rules like MLB? Would that reduce injuries by eliminating the 350# 'ers who come in on passing downs only with the intent to squish the QB? Would it stop the bulking up if the players had to play the whole game?

Certainly, if there was limited substitution, it would slow down the pace of the game. Then, the NFL would fold and the rival league, which allowed unlimited substitution, would thrive and take over.

As it is now, a 350# guy comes in to replace a 350# guy. My Lions are rotating 7 beefy defensive linemen the entire game to keep them as fresh as possible.

[jimAKAblue]

Well, I've read a lot of comments by Bronco fans. Perhaps they formed my thinking too much. Besides, I know that good players don't always make good coaches. That goes for any sport.

I read all the comments too from the Lions fans. They all hate, hate, hate, Jeff Backus our left guard. The guy has played 12 seasons straight without missing a game. He's one of the most solid, yet hated guys on the team. He was a free agent this year and Martin Mayhew made it a priority to re sign him. He was one of the first guys that we locked up.

What does that tell you? It tells you that the things that the fans see aren't the same things that the coaches and GM's see. Remember when Green Bay ran Brett Farve out of Wisconsin? I remember having a long discussion with a guy who thought that Green Bay was nuts. Like now, I told him that the coaching staff wouldn't be switching to Aaron Rodgers unless they knew something we didn't know. History shows us that Aaron was the right choice.

We will have to wait to see how Manning pans out. He certainly has a few more good years left in him in the right system. My gut tells me that Denver was not happy with Tebow and they intended to go in another direction even if they didn't land Manning via the draft or free agency.

The NFL is a passing game and Tebow just can't make all the throws. That handicaps the offensive game plan and he'll never be able to get to the big dance without improving his arm/accuracy.

[Johnson]

I read all the comments too from the Lions fans. They all hate, hate, hate, Jeff Backus our left guard. The guy has played 12 seasons straight without missing a game. He's one of the most solid, yet hated guys on the team. He was a free agent this year and Martin Mayhew made it a priority to re sign him. He was one of the first guys that we locked up.

What does that tell you? It tells you that the things that the fans see aren't the same things that the coaches and GM's see. Remember when Green Bay ran Brett Farve out of Wisconsin? I remember having a long discussion with a guy who thought that Green Bay was nuts. Like now, I told him that the coaching staff wouldn't be switching to Aaron Rodgers unless they knew something we didn't know. History shows us that Aaron was the right choice.

We will have to wait to see how Manning pans out. He certainly has a few more good years left in him in the right system. My gut tells me that Denver was not happy with Tebow and they intended to go in another direction even if they didn't land Manning via the draft or free agency.

The NFL is a passing game and Tebow just can't make all the throws. That handicaps the offensive game plan and he'll never be able to get to the big dance without improving his arm/accuracy.

Well Jim, what would you have done with Troy Aikman in his first two years? If you ask me, he turned out pretty good. The proof is in the pudding with Manning in regards to his effect on the team. I think Elway is a bit stupid for putting all his eggs in the Manning basket, especially when we see what happened to the Colts after Manning got hurt. You bring up Favre, but the Favre example falls perfectly in line with my issue with Manning. Keep in mind, I'm not saying Elway is stupid for getting rid of Tebow, which he didn't actually do, yet. I think he's stupid for signing Manning to a ridiculous contract.

We'll see as we get into the next NFL season. You are pretty savvy on football Jim, but don't forget who got the superbowl all wrong, while yours truly was giving it to you the way it happened before it happened.

[parkwest]

...As it is now, a 350# guy comes in to replace a 350# guy. My Lions are rotating 7 beefy defensive linemen the entire game to keep them as fresh as possible.

You make my point, if one of the 350# sumo wrestlers needs a "breather" he should be removed from the game ie. baseball. By requiring a player to "play" the whole game, we should see a drastic reduction in 300#+ players. That should reduce the disparity in weights on the field thus helping to eliminate injuries.