Cantilever Brackets

**archmolding** · 03-06-2012, 11:14 PM

Guys,

I have been scouring the Internet looking for these projecting brackets, and am having a tough time finding them. Some may call them corbels but they are not according to the "Illustrated Dictionary of Historic Architecture" (Thanks again Gary Katz)

Anyways, I need to get 5 of them in Red Oak for a mantel design that I am working on. Its a REAL slick design. I'll post it when I'm done. Right now I just need to find the sources so I can price this peice.

Anyone have any links? I have seen some corbels that I could invert and wrap a bed molding around them for a simular look. Ill keep looking into that...

I'm not to concerned with the width or hieght. But the projection needs to be less than 12in, Preferably like 8 or 9 in.

I have found these:
http://www.osbornewood.com/product/8160.cfm
But.. 22in is way too big for a mantel shelf.

Any ideas suggestions, comments?

**Alaskan Son** · 03-06-2012, 11:35 PM

Does the "Illustrated Dictionary of Historic Architecture" say where the old school guys found them? :)

I included sarcasm above.

**coopercustom** · 03-06-2012, 11:37 PM

Here is a 9" that is very similar to the one you showed from osbourne, they also have quite a large selection.
http://www.louisandcompany.com/store...d10389637.html
Good luck, Josh
I did try to see the price but it said it wasn't available online and to contact my customer rep.

**archmolding** · 03-06-2012, 11:57 PM

OK proper term for these is Modillion Block, Funny I knew that already...but saw the cantilever definition that book first. LOL still not a corbel!

Thanks for the help.

**Lavrans** · 03-06-2012, 11:59 PM

Originally Posted by archmolding

Guys,

I have been scouring the Internet looking for these projecting brackets, and am having a tough time finding them. Some may call them corbels but they are not according to the "Illustrated Dictionary of Historic Architecture" (Thanks again Gary Katz)

Anyways, I need to get 5 of them in Red Oak for a mantel design that I am working on. Its a REAL slick design. I'll post it when I'm done. Right now I just need to find the sources so I can price this peice.

Anyone have any links? I have seen some corbels that I could invert and wrap a bed molding around them for a simular look. Ill keep looking into that...

I'm not to concerned with the width or hieght. But the projection needs to be less than 12in, Preferably like 8 or 9 in.

I have found these:
http://www.osbornewood.com/product/8160.cfm
But.. 22in is way too big for a mantel shelf.

Any ideas suggestions, comments?

Your illustration is enough that anyone who has a ShopBot or better CNC could mill the brackets. It would be a 2 part cut for the simpler machines (who would also be charging less on average). They can scale to any size you want- you'd just have to come up with some idea of depths- if you had a photograph there are a couple programs that most of the sign makers have use that can infer depth by the shadows.

Price would probably be about the same as Osborne, but probably need more finish sanding on your part.

Check WoodWeb for CNC's near you, or the Thermwood site... I believe ShopBot has a locator service on their site, too.

**archmolding** · 03-07-2012, 12:16 AM

Ok Enkeboll does have them, I was looking at them wrong.
These are practically the same as the pictures i posted. They could be used for Modillions because of the Lack of a cornice top to them. I could invert these, back them out with some 1x stock and wrap a small bed molding around them. This may work...Now just have to find them at a better cost...I do need 5 ouch! I also need 2 corinthian columns for this mantel as well...Going to be the nicest mantel I have ever gotten a chance at.
http://www.shopenkebolldesigns.com/p...ide-small.html

**bjackson3** · 03-07-2012, 05:42 AM

Do you have an account with Enkenbol? I believe the prices are better than that if you do. I would look into setting one up, but not doubt Enkelbol is expensive but it is some seriously top notch stuff.

**philthegreek** · 03-07-2012, 06:32 AM

Jesse,
I have bought from Enkebol in the past and their quality is top notch. Their prices are not on the cheap side, but they seem to set the standard for carved woodwork components. You should register with them and get their cata----- I mean PORTFOLIO. It is a work of art in itself. It's bound in an embossed fabric 3 ring binder with each leaf being a large high quality matt color print with well thought out specifics. Their acanthus molding is by far the best I've seen. Do yourself that favor ;-)

Phil

**Lavrans** · 03-07-2012, 07:32 AM

Better price? I also suspect those are the retail prices. But still, what are you getting?

Seems like a pretty good deal compared to carving it myself. I know I'd have at least 4 hours into each, not counting sourcing the wood, even if I already had patterns ready. Heck, considering how long it's been since I've done any carving, I'd have to spend a couple hours just getting the chisels ready :D

**kfc510** · 03-07-2012, 08:28 AM

Try Victoriana in SF. Always worth a shot. They're over by Beronio.
kevin

**steve demetrick** · 03-07-2012, 09:05 AM

Just checked out the Enkebol site. What a great resource! I look forward to seeing the pictures of the mantle Jesse.

-Steve

**calvert** · 03-07-2012, 06:31 PM

Arch...http://www.imperialdesign.on.ca/ELEM...umns/bases.htm I never used these guys but I had them bookmarked for some column work we were doing a few years ago.

Big selection, go to modillion listing and they show several selections in red oak...although they ultimately refer to them as corbels.

You may find some columns there too.

**LIHR50** · 03-07-2012, 06:56 PM

Always call these companies and ask for professional trade pricing. Most will pass on a degree of savings.

That's going to be a beautiful mantel piece with 5 modillions and Corinthian columns. Fancy for sure and the price is the price. with new hearth, some stone work and Corinthian entablature/Surround it's going to have dollar signs written all over it.

**bobkni** · 03-07-2012, 07:54 PM

This company has a bunch of corbels that I have used, many small ones. About a dozen pages.
Outwater Plastics
http://www.outwatercatalogs.com/lg_d...talog/page/431

**Gary Katz** · 03-08-2012, 08:33 AM

A lot of Endkebol's woodwork is not made entirely by machine. There are other companies that have similar pieces. Try this one, too: http://superiormoulding.com/
They're in S. CA.
But wait....what are you doing looking outside of SF? There must be some awesome Victorian molding and millwork shops and distributors up there!

Jesse, I think it would be a good idea to really explore that and start buying from a single source in the bay area, then build up your relationship with them for referral work....just a thought.
Gary

Thread: Cantilever Brackets

Thread Tools

Display