replacing window glass in newer windows.

[m beezo]

not sure how else to say it.
Looked at a caement windows that is about 10 years old and has insulated glass. Glass is broken, window works fine. It is an Anderson all wood unit. I know there has to be a way to replace the glass but I did not see clips or a way to take the window apart to get the glass out and insert a new one. Since I did not have much in the way of tools and was just looking did not want to start scraping off paint and such to take a look at how to take it apart.

[Kent Brobeck]

Beez, I'm gonna guess it doesn't come apart. I'd call Anderson and ask them first. You may need to order a new sash.

[David Meiland]

Any sign of nailed-in wood stops from either side?

[SteveC]

Beez
Here....detail on Pg 2
http://www.andersenwindows.com/servl...&ssbinary=true
Think for warranty issues they only sell new sash, as glass is siliconed to sash, if I remember.

[Lettusbee67]

This is one of the drawbacks replacement windows.

Marvin and Hurd both do the same thing.

I have seen them get reglazed, but it is a delicate process, using a fein supercut with a thin glazers blade. Not sure under which conditions you can get away with that.

[popawheelie]

I changed the glass in an anderson window.
Part of it I had to slip a putty knife between the glass and the sash to get the old glass out.
It was glued in. The local glass shop made a glass replacement for me.

[m beezo]

cannot say for sure about the outside stops. It is a 3rd floor window and I did not have a tall enough ladder to reach it. Actually a 2nd floor window but with a walk out area where my ladder goes so it becomes a need for a 32 ft ladder.

Will be checking with Anderson on Monday.

[Tom Bainbridge]

Here goes.

The "regs" here require a "minimum" U value for windows. The U value is only achieveable if you bond the glass/glazing units into the frame. Old fashioned linseed oil putty doesn't make the grade.

The result is that I price for a new casement and new glass. Tough call for the customer for cost. Far worse for me if i don't.

EDIT. Alternatively, write the customer's specifcation AND your objections into the contract.

Let them carry the can for poor judgement of their part.

[SteveC]

cannot say for sure about the outside stops. It is a 3rd floor window and I did not have a tall enough ladder to reach it. Actually a 2nd floor window but with a walk out area where my ladder goes so it becomes a need for a 32 ft ladder.

Will be checking with Anderson on Monday.

Errra....
If you fully crank open the window, you can see the outside from the inside !
I also take Anderson sash out from the inside, no need for a 32' ladder, unless it's a clerestory window. : )
Also
By "wood" inside and outside ?
If so they stopped those in 1989 by this...
http://parts.andersenwindows.com/ite...ment_sash.html
Should be an etched mark in the lower corner to identify window.
Less than 10 years old, may be warranteed if breakage was stress crack.

[m beezo]

Steve,
reason the glass was broken is the homeowner tried to force it open after it had been painted shut by the painter this fall. So doubt the glass would be warranty issue. Also it is still painted shut so cannot see the outside from the inside.

Would love to do the work from the inside but for now we just look and get some ideas of what comes next.

[David Meiland]

SteveC... I have also noticed that some windows are operable... but should we really tell EVERYONE else?

[SteveC]

Steve,
reason the glass was broken is the homeowner tried to force it open after it had been painted shut by the painter this fall. So doubt the glass would be warranty issue. Also it is still painted shut so cannot see the outside from the inside.

Would love to do the work from the inside but for now we just look and get some ideas of what comes next.

Painted shut on the exterior ?
Pertinent info like this should've been included the first post. :)
As per the Anderson replacement sash guide, you can see primed wood sash stopped in 1989.
IF this is a 22 year old primed casement, get your ladder ready to do any work.
They have a "knife type" hinge, screws are on outside of jamb.
Best bet would be just get replacement sash, if it does turn out to be that old.
Be safe "up there", make sure it's a calm day !

If they are "Andersen Primed Casement"
http://www.andersenwindows.com/homeo...d_Casement.pdf

[SteveC]

SteveC... I have also noticed that some windows are operable... but should we really tell EVERYONE else?

And then what, you'll have people asking why they don't have a crank on their stationary units !
: )

[ThingOfBeauty]

I just replaced some Loewen glass this summer, even removed the SDL wood grill on the inside.
For the SDLs, I used the fein tool with a stainless steel blade to separate the butyl tape from the glass. You can peel off the butyl from the wood. The blade has to be perfectly smooth or it will scratch the glass.
The perimeter is nailed wood stops with a foam tape. The foam is easy to cut with the fein tool but the nails tend to ding up the blades. Then the blade will scratch. I ended up making heavy use of the quick-change procedure on the reconditioned MM250Q I heard about on the forums. All day long I was thanking Greg for posting the sale on the Tools forum!
A five-in-one or small prybar gets the wood off, cut the outside foam tape as well, glass is out.
You do want factory foam & butyl tapes to reinstall everything. We were able to reuse almost all the wood.

[David Meiland]

Ugh. What happened that you had to replace the glass?