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  1. #1
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    Default Increasing Ceiling Height on Existing Home

    I'm meeting with a prospective client tomorrow who wants to raise the ceiling height, currently 8', on a portion of a 1960s brick veneer bungalow with a walk-out basement. Most homes in this area are being razed to build 3,500-5,000+ sf newer homes, so he is not interested in spending a whole lot as he likely won't get it back in the future. (Like who is!)

    Without seeing the home, my suggestions were to lower the basement floor by underpinning and coffer or cathederalize a ceiling or two in the upper level.

    Any other thoughts would be appreciated.

    (I did Google up this JLC article about increasing ceiling heights on a frame home. Great read. I wouldn't begin to tackle this myself. Nor would this fit his budget.)
    "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don’t have a f**king clue about how to build anything." Jim Goad

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    Default Re: Increasing Ceiling Height on Existing Home

    Wow thats some procedure. They dont want to spend alot and your thinking of this. You would need a sharp pencil. Although alot is saved there is certainly alot that isnt, mechanical, siding, ceilings. This is dangerous and tough option, why not catherdral ceilings with a structural wall or ridge?
    Tom

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    Default Re: Increasing Ceiling Height on Existing Home

    I was just reading that JLC piece! But I think I'll print it up in case my prospect thinks I'm overstating the difficulties and cost.
    "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don’t have a f**king clue about how to build anything." Jim Goad

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    Default Re: Increasing Ceiling Height on Existing Home

    Quote Originally Posted by worthy View Post
    But I think I'll print it up in case my prospect thinks I'm overstating the difficulties and cost.
    If he does, tell him to walk around barefoot, that will be around an inch he can get for free.
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    Default Re: Increasing Ceiling Height on Existing Home

    LOL Very helpful!
    "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don’t have a f**king clue about how to build anything." Jim Goad

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    Default Re: Increasing Ceiling Height on Existing Home

    This guy will probably run screaming when he gets a price. You're talking a major operation here; I agree with Ted, walk around barefoot :)

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    Default Re: Increasing Ceiling Height on Existing Home

    I agree with the humorous take on this.

    Look, what you described here is a delusional tire kicker. He wants to raise the ceiling (why?) on a house that 1. he doesn't want to spend money on and 2 isn't worth spending money on. Unless he happens to be 7'4" tall, and even then..

    My suggestion is that you bill for every minute you waste on this "project".

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    Default Re: Increasing Ceiling Height on Existing Home

    ouch some of this hurts. Great time to sell him a new build in a less pricy area - sell this to the $$$ buyers.
    But first run- does not want to spend on a spendy renovation.

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    Default Re: Increasing Ceiling Height on Existing Home

    Quote Originally Posted by worthy View Post
    ...so he is not interested in spending a whole lot as he likely won't get it back in the future.
    See, this is the wrong attitude to have. Explain to him his house is not an investment. You don't design with ROI in mind; You design with how much are you going to enjoy your home once the renovations are completed. If you have good taste, you'll raise the value of the house. Enough to cover the costs? Who cares!

    Tom
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    3) Unconsciously Competent: He knows, and knows not that he knows. He is asleep. Wake him.
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    Default Re: Increasing Ceiling Height on Existing Home

    Why not just put tray ceilings in it? Of course if you've got trusses that can be a problem.
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    Default Re: Increasing Ceiling Height on Existing Home

    When he heard the "ballpark" for essentially demolishing, underpinning and rebuilding a finished basement with 8'6" height (except for returns) and wiping out and rebuilding all the first floor, he balked.

    He did make a very reasonable offer on a lot last year--and has a strong covenant, according to the mortgage manager who referred me--so I persist.
    "The fatal flaw of all revolutionaries is that they know how to tear things down but don’t have a f**king clue about how to build anything." Jim Goad

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