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    Default Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    I just read that Texas Governor Rick Perry is now running for president. Do you think he would make a good POTUS?

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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    I suspect that we'll all learn plenty soon enough. Oddly enough it seems our current Gov is making real nice with Perry these days. Sorry in advance. ;)
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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    He'll be fine if everyone is ok with repealing the separation of church and state and being ok with a religious fanatic in office.
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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrans View Post
    He'll be fine if everyone is ok with repealing the separation of church and state and being ok with a religious fanatic in office.
    Who cares about any of that as long as he can create jobs.

    And cut spending. We need to cut spending and create jobs.

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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by hdrider_chgo View Post
    Who cares about any of that as long as he can create jobs.

    And cut spending. We need to cut spending and create jobs.
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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrans View Post
    He'll be fine if everyone is ok with repealing the separation of church and state and being ok with a religious fanatic in office.
    That could be a bit of a stretch. But MSNBC sure is trying to make that point. These media outlets don't report the news they just want to destroy anyone they don't agree with. This goes for Fox too.
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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by hdrider_chgo View Post
    Who cares about any of that as long as he can create jobs.

    And cut spending. We need to cut spending and create jobs.
    He has taken some companies from CA, their economy is better than the national average. They do have advantages over places like CA, your state IL, and my area of the north east, they have no income tax, general low taxes vs. the north east, IL, CA, etc. and the cost of living is much lower than those places. I know my area has lost companies to TX. The state grew the most in the US over the past decade population wise. They picked up 4 new congressional seats with the most recent reapportionment.

    With regards to faith, Perry is very open about his beliefs. There are is no state church of texas so I think the former Klansman SCOTUS justice Hugo Blacks supreme court ruling about separation of church and state will stand.

    I know Perry from a distance so Allan's firsthand feelings would be welcome.

    A few things I've heard are Perry and Bush don't really get along. I don't think they hate each other but they have their differences and the Bush political people are not fans either. Also, Perry has a reputation for being untouchable to a degree. Nothing seems to stick down in Tx against him. Kay Bailey Hutchinson's (sitting US senator) tried to knock him off in the Gov primary last year and failed badly. Her people were supposedly shocked that nothing they did stuck, he was untouchable.

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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by hdrider_chgo View Post
    Who cares about any of that as long as he can create jobs.

    And cut spending. We need to cut spending and create jobs.
    I forgot about spending. This year's budget in Tx has real cuts in spending. When they talk about spending cuts in Washington DC, they are never talking about real cuts, they are talking about cuts to the growth of increase to that budget item. Say a budget for a dept is $100 million and the projection calls for 4% increases per year going forward. In washington a cut is moving the growth down to 3% instead of the 4%. Rarely do they actually cut the dept in real dollars.

    Tx had a pretty sizable projected budget deficit for this year. They balanced the state budget completely through spending cuts with zero tax increases.

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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kent Brobeck View Post
    These media outlets don't report the news they just want to destroy anyone they don't agree with. This goes for Fox too.
    Now I'm damn near agreeing with you... something must be wrong.
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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lavrans View Post

    He'll be fine if everyone is ok with repealing the separation of church and state and being ok with a religious fanatic in office.
    What part of the 1st Amendment escapes you? He's not officially endorsing a(ny) religion, just exercising his right as a private citizen to worship as he wishes, unencumbered. And he won't be the 1st fanatic in office. More like the 45th.
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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by hdrider_chgo View Post

    Who cares about any of that as long as he can create jobs. And cut spending. We need to cut spending and create jobs.
    Agreed, especially since Obama policies kill private job creation and increase federal spending. He's the Anti/Anti.
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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    You guys probably know more about Perry than I do. We Texans pay very little attention to our politicians primarily because our state government is so nondescript. Football is much more important here.

    Regarding state government, we just ask that they leave us alone. By law we allow the legislature to meet every other year and we pay each elected official $7,500 a year to do as little as possible. We also limit their every other year session to 140 days so they can’t screw things up to much.

    By the way, taxes are high here. 8-1/2% sales tax, some of the highest property taxes of any state (2.7% of appraised value), and we do have a state income tax for businesses, big and small. I've been paying it for years.

    The Lieutenant Governor is much more powerful than the Governor, Texas Governors are nobodies here. They are very weak, they have very little power compared to other governors of other states. I really couldn’t tell you anything about Perry, good or bad. Which means he’ll probably make a pretty good candidate and become our next President.

    It appears to me it doesn‘t take much to become President.

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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kent Brobeck View Post
    That could be a bit of a stretch. But MSNBC sure is trying to make that point. These media outlets don't report the news they just want to destroy anyone they don't agree with. This goes for Fox too.
    The real partisan at fox is Hannity, he's very clear on his slant. O'reilly is to the right but not much and it depends on the issue. He's left on some issues. Greta Van Susren has all sides on and pretty much just asks questions as she did when she was on CNN. Brett Baier is very fair, Shepard smith at 7pm is a liberal. His show is a news recap but he adds opinion here and there.

    CNN had a real partisan with former D gov elliot spitzer (aka client number 9), that guy was at least as partisan as Hannity maybe more. The others tip left a bit but not bad. John King is pretty fair. Piers morgan does more celeb stuff than politics but he's an english liberal here and there.

    The worst by far is MSNBC. Every network has people with their bias's but you don't see CBS, ABC, Fox or CNN with people like MSNBC. They don't just have liberals, they have the left of the left. Chris Matthews was a longtime Dem staffer in congress. Al Sharpton is a nut and stupid but also very liberal. At 8 pm they have Lawrence O'Donnell a former Dem staffer in the Senate. O'Donnell earlier this year proudly pronounced on MSNBC that he wasn't a liberal, that he was a socialist and proud of it. Rachel Maddow was on Air America, is a far left liberal and basically parrots the talking points for the DNC that day. Ed Shultz is insane but also far far left.

    Not sure how many people watch the stations but all the stations have both sides on for lively debates or alternating guests, etc. Even Hannity who is very partisan will have Dem's on for a debate of the issues. CNN will have a panel with 2 d's and 2 r's, etc. MSNBC is all liberal all the time. They don't just have D guests. The guests are the very left of the D party. They will not have on people like Lieberman, Ben Nelson, etc. they only have on the far left of the D's. They actually attack D's from time to time for not being liberal enough.

    The morning show on MSNBC, the woman Mika actually gets text messages from the white house during the show to bring up certain issues, etc. Check you tube, she did it on the air once.

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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    The dateline on this article is January 10th, 2011 so it was a little over half a year ago but still,…Poll says Texans like Rick Perry as governor, but not as president.

    …And with regard to Rick Perry and "Jobs" earlier this evening I posted this Rick Perry's 'Texas Miracle' Includes Crowded Homeless Shelters, Low-Wage Jobs, Worker Deaths over here.

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    Default Re: So Allan, Would Texas Governor Perry Make A Good POTUS?

    Quote Originally Posted by Allan Edwards View Post
    You guys probably know more about Perry than I do. We Texans pay very little attention to our politicians primarily because our state government is so nondescript. Football is much more important here.

    Regarding state government, we just ask that they leave us alone. By law we allow the legislature to meet every other year and we pay each elected official $7,500 a year to do as little as possible. We also limit their every other year session to 140 days so they can’t screw things up to much.

    By the way, taxes are high here. 8-1/2% sales tax, some of the highest property taxes of any state (2.7% of appraised value), and we do have a state income tax for businesses, big and small. I've been paying it for years.

    The Lieutenant Governor is much more powerful than the Governor, Texas Governors are nobodies here. They are very weak, they have very little power compared to other governors of other states. I really couldn’t tell you anything about Perry, good or bad. Which means he’ll probably make a pretty good candidate and become our next President.

    It appears to me it doesn‘t take much to become President.
    How are your assessments, actual price, low, high? What would be the typical property tax for a $600k house?

    If you think taxes are high in TX, you have not been to the northeast. Your taxes are FAR better than NY, NJ, CT and my state MA. My state has some mid level taxes on most but they have "fees" on everything from your license to things you've never heard of. We have an excise tax. You buy a car, you pay a sales tax on that purchase (6.25%), then every year you own that car or any car, you pay an excise tax on the value of the car for that year. So you get taxed for simply owning a car, plus high insurance, 2nd most expensive health insurance, etc.

    Oh yeah, our legislature meets year round and they gave themselves a massive pay raise 10 years ago so most make around $60k per year. And they'll get their pension based off that though many get appointed to be a judge for $120k and get the pension based off that figure. The session is a full year but it's part time work, most probably work 20 hrs per week max.

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