PVC Trim

[deryl dw]

I am making some window trim surrounds out of PVC trim. What glue have you used that works well? I was thinking of brands PVC Welder or Bond & Fill. The trim is CertainTeed brand. Also what works best,screws or siding nails for attaching trim to home & filling screw or nail holes? I have not worked much with the PVC trim before and would like to do it correctly.

Thanks for your help.

[ThingOfBeauty]

You can try reading the directions...usually it tells you.
Azek says to use Azek glue, which seems like very good stuff, thick and effective, if expensive.
Does Certainteed have directions, or a rep you can reach?

[mike maines]

I have only used Azek glue and plumber's cement, but I have heard from many sources that Bond-n-Fill is the best thing since homemade bread. It can be used to fill screw holes, which is the best fastener, though ring-shank nails are fine too.

[Nate E]

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[dgbldr]

I don't know what product you're using, but I just had a long conversation with a Certainteed rep and he said they make composite trim, not 100% PVC. Call them and ask.

[deryl dw]

Hi Thanks for your input. I went with the Bond & Fill brand. It was one of the (two listed) products CertainTeed had recommended in the installation manual. I also called them and ask them about other brands and they said the ones listed are what they recommended to use. I will post after I use the product and tell you how it went. As far as fasteners I still have not got a good answer to that. The manual says do not use ring shank nails or screws but they could not give me a good answer as to why not. Smooth shank just does not hold as well. I will post on what I find out with fasteners also.

[Nate E]

Stainless steel finish nails

[Top Notch]

NATE are you countersinking the ss nails then filling or nailing flush then painting?

[daigie]

we use bond and fill and coretex screws they come with plugs for the screw heads. works very nice.

Steve

[Nate E]

NATE are you countersinking the ss nails then filling or nailing flush then painting?

I'm letting the gun sink them. Most of my work ends up being painted. Most painters in the area are using the 1 part red bondo and then sanding and painting.
-Nate

[Joe Carola]

I'm letting the gun sink them. Most of my work ends up being painted. Most painters in the area are using the 1 part red bondo and then sanding and painting.
-Nate

Nate,

Why are you using stainless?

[Top Notch]

I guess its safer than galvanized. He works in cape may so its coastal. Im actually in wildwood and every new condo complex I see is vinyl shake and trim with pre fab rail kits. I keep thinking it PVC but most of the time its vinyl once you get closer. Cape May has a little more coin.

[Nate E]

Nate,

Why are you using stainless?

We're in a coastal environment and stainless has been the norm here on the exteriors for the last ten years or better. I think it is the right way to go. The galvanized option doesn't seem to work when we are talking about finish nails and such. The coatings are just too thin over the steel.

Top Notch, most of my work is in Avalon and Stone Harbor - similar incomes to those that inhabit Cape May proper.
-Nate

[jeffaah]

I use Azek and Kleer and use either Azek glue or Bond and Fill. I hate using the Kleer glue and the Azek glue bonds the Kleer well.

I install with 15g SS nails, 16g Paslode or Cortex screws/plugs. I sometimes use SS hand nails too. Small moldings get installed with glue too.

[m beezo]

just out of curiousity, if stainless steel nails are the norm for that area are they stocked at the lumber yards and such? Around here, St Louis, no one seems to carry the things. Fastenall can get them at an outrageous price when you factor in the shipping, none of the big box stores carry any of them, my one lumber yard that I deal with can get them if you order a few days in advance but I do not recall the pricing.
I agree that the galvinized finish on most gun nails is quite thin but has to be better than nothing.