Thread: Massachusetts Stretch Code
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07-15-2010, 02:18 PM #1
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Massachusetts Stretch Code
I don't know how many of you are in MA, but we seam to have a major change going into affect. As of July 1st, 2010, we have a rigorous new energy code requiring a HERS score of 65. To give you are reference, a building built to code has a HERS Score of 100, and an Energy Star labeled home has a score of 85, its like a golf score, the lower the better, and now suddenly everyone, even the worst of hackers, must be playing scratch basically overnight.
As much as I look forward to building business based on energy efficiency, I just can't quite grasp the magnitude of this change. It will govern lighting selections, appliances, windows will all need to be high performance, continuous exterior insulation will be required much of the time, the buildings will need to be super tight, yet the requirements for combustion saftey and proper IAQ are somewhat lax when compared to the sealing and insulating of the envelope.
This is going to be interesting, this is a real game changer. Basically everyone is going to have to build super tight and traditional methods and now gone. Even the HVAC is going to have some crazy requirements, you are basically going to have to bring all the duct work inside.
I'm not sure if they know what they got themselves into here.
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07-15-2010, 02:32 PM #2
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07-15-2010, 02:59 PM #3
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Re: Massachusetts Stretch Code
NAHBs stance on this one would be interesting, they are supporting energy efficiency with their national green building standard, but now here in MA many inspectors are rejecting permits in the Strect Code jurisdictions until they get something from a HERS rater certifying the building will meet code, I think NAHB would oppose that?
I will just sit in the back row of this one with a bag of Doritos and see how it shakes out. It's not going to be pretty.
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Re: Massachusetts Stretch Code
Ted:
It's interesting that a Texas building inspector has come up with the idea to start a business "unsealing" homes and is questioning the leaglity of such a business.
And he is getting responses like this:
Originally Posted by Uncle Bob
And this:
Originally Posted by North Star
In another thread on the same sick home problem:
Originally Posted by Jim Baird
I don't agree with this, it is a real problem here in areas with green codes, I think the public just has to be educated to open windows all the time. The real problem is people with allergies who can't open windows, I know of one CBO who is advising sick people in new homes to sell their homes and try to find good 50 year-old homes and judiciously remodel them without toxic materials. My mechanical contractor is getting so many requests to disable mechanical ventilation systems he thinks there should be a law enabling people with doctors' certificates to build new homes without complying with the new codes. That's not going to work, just look at the people who get doctors' certificates for disabled parking placards.
Originally Posted by Ewenme
I think that the coming business model for contractors, promote yourself as a healthy building contractor who uses all natural building products and doesn't seal up homes, new construction is going to be very hard with the codes in place, but relatively easy with remodeling existing homes. That is what I am doing now, leave the maximum of the old homes standing to qualify as a remodel, not a new home or a "rebuild", it's considerably more expensive since remodeling is by it's nature much slower than building new, but probably the only way to produce a healthy home.
I thought the only downside of sealed up homes was rotting walls, this whole sick building syndrome caught me by surprise, we should have known with the sick building syndrome of the 80s when they sealed up office buildings.
¹ http://www.inspectpa.com/phpbb/showt...aling-homes%29
² http://www.inspectpa.com/phpbb/showt...R-DOOR-TEST-or"But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level, and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom"
― Alexis de Tocqueville "Democracy in America"
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07-15-2010, 09:42 PM #6
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Re: Massachusetts Stretch Code
Ted,
You're probably both right and wrong.
65 isn't that big of a challenge in most designs. But so much of the industry just doesn't even have a way to know what to change and how to explain it to all the trade contractors.
I was just in two meetings in one day. One, our rater was giving us the certificate for a large house with a 50 HERS rating, 2.3 ACH50. The other, our local building permit office was whining about the 2009 IECC we've just adopted, which includes a version of the Thermal Bypass Checklist from Energy Star. He actually said it would be nearly impossible to pass! So...it's both not that challenging if you are a dedicated craftperson, and also, many will find it challenging, I guess.Doug
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Re: Massachusetts Stretch Code
I hope your right TOB. It's not been my experience to get to a HERS 65 without some significant effort and upgraded mechanicals, but I have seen many get to the 85 pretty easily. I go to get a set of drawings today from a builder who was rejected for permit. And so it begins.
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