Thread: Look Out Allan
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07-12-2010, 12:33 PM #1
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Look Out Allan
The Greenies want your air conditioning now, I've read this in the past with claims that the single best way to "save energy" is to ban air conditioning.
Now let's be fair about this, if we are going to ban air conditioning in the South, we should ban heating in the North, particularly wood burning, it pollutes much more than coal, oil or gas burning.
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¹ http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...902341_pf.html"But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level, and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom"
― Alexis de Tocqueville "Democracy in America"
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07-12-2010, 01:19 PM #2
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Interesting, I just got the book, a very good read---if you do
read that is.
I find is as a way to consider how we can reduce construction costs, reduce energy consumption (lower bills) and still enjoy life.
If you do take the time to read the book you will find there are things we have lost in the sake of progress.
Still cool Bill R
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07-12-2010, 01:53 PM #3
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Sounds like a good read. I just found it at our local book store, and will be picking it up tonight. Thanks for the link, Bill!
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07-12-2010, 02:14 PM #4
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For sure I am not turning off the AC, my wife would not stand for that and I do like to cool off on these so very hot days.
However there are things that have changed the way we live and it is not always for the better;
Advent of air conditioning
Merchant tract building
First oil embargo
I will not turn off my AC however I will try to be nicer in the face of all of this heat:)
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Let me know what you think of the book Bob
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07-12-2010, 02:49 PM #5
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If you want to point fingers for the unnecessary use of air conditioning, I'd unhesitatingly point my finger to women. I love women, if not for them I would not be in business. But women as a whole can not survive without A/C. Especially when they go through their "Changes",
and let me tell you, you better have the A/C cranked up and the windows open in the winter or else you'll find yourself sleeping with the Wolfman.
I could lie in bed in sweltering heat and fall asleep, my wife could too, but only after she put a knife in my chest for turning on the A/C.Last edited by GaryJR; 07-12-2010 at 03:53 PM.
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07-12-2010, 02:56 PM #6
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Gary:
You climb in bed with your wife with knives in your home? Have you forgotten about John already?"But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level, and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom"
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07-12-2010, 04:09 PM #8
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I woke up the other morning freezing. I went to the thermastat and my wife had it at 48 F! I didn't even think it could go that low...
You should see the mud pit outside from the condenser... June Heat turned the AC unit area into a small pond...Louisville Exteriors
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07-12-2010, 04:24 PM #9
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Can't imagine living in Hot & Humid Houston without AC, although we didn't have it in cars, the homes we lived in, or school until I was about 15.
Bill, I'm trying to figure out the meaning of your links: History of AC, Tract Building, and Oil. Is there a secret message there?
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07-12-2010, 04:28 PM #10
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Seems we may have innocently stumbled upon the cause and the cure of greenhouse gases, American women!!!
Is there any studies giving us numbers on energy use broke down by sex?It is a simple matter of being patient. I do patience very well, except for the waiting part. That's the one aspect of patience that still bites me.
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07-12-2010, 04:37 PM #11
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07-12-2010, 06:36 PM #12
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No problem Ted, we just put antifreeze in the sprinklers, then when we have grease fires we will kill people helping with the overpopulation problem and further reducing greenhouse gasses.
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"But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level, and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom"
― Alexis de Tocqueville "Democracy in America"
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07-12-2010, 06:48 PM #13
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Shoot Allan, and I thought it was so obvious.
IMO those three events, the invention and mass-marketing of air conditioning, production building techniques and the 1973 oil embargo have drastically changed the way we build.
Of course there are other things but I believe these three have had the greatest (not necessarily good) impact.
Air conditioning allowed more building in the hot and hot/humid climates and also took away the tall ceilings, ventilating windows, front porches, large sun-blocking overhangs.
Production building, perfected by the Levits brought us modular building, slab on grade, low ceilings, no porches, snout houses, developments based on density and cul-de-sacs.
The oil embargo if 1973 brought us energy codes, the DOE, insulation on a mass level and building science.
No secret code here, just some building history.
Capice?
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07-12-2010, 07:52 PM #14
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So Bill, if we I build with tall ceilings, ventilating windows, front porches, and large sun-blocking overhangs, we shouldn't have to be concerned about all of this?
Originally Posted by Bill
"But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level, and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom"
― Alexis de Tocqueville "Democracy in America"
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07-12-2010, 09:39 PM #15
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All of what Dick?
All of what?
Everything or just a few things?
Politicks, Liberals and the nasty things that go along with them or just a few things?
Still cool Bill R
Just rolled into a Ramada in New Iberia LA.
The AC was turned down so cold I am thinking Josh and his wife were here last nite:)


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