devices near/over tub,shower etc.

[Slaughter Construction Co]

This may be too involved to be covered here, but I will ask anyway.
In the city of Ft. Worth, Texas, the electrical code used is NFPA 70, National Electrical Code, in lieu of that as stated in the International Residential Code. What are the NEC requirement for the installation/location of lighting, heating and venting devices above/near tubs, showers etc. or is it by chance the same as the IRC.

[Roger P]

What edition are you on? NFPA maintains the electrical chapters of the IRC so the requirements are the same for the most part. Appendix Q of the IRC will give you the applicable section in the NEC. You can read NFPA 70 here for free after registering. http://www.nfpa.org/aboutthecodes/Ab....asp?DocNum=70. Select the edition that you are on (2005 or 2008).

[Slaughter Construction Co]

Roger. Thanks for the reply. Tried the link you gave. I could never get to the info. I need.
What about low voltage over a tub or shower? Are recessed fixtures allowed e.g. recessed lighting, venting and heaters? Hope you can help. Thanks again, Bruce
PS. if this shows up as a duplication, I had replied before but it never showed up.

[Roger P]

Bruce:
The code does differentiate between voltages.
2006 IRC (based on NFPA 70-2005):
E3903.8 Wet or damp locations. Luminaires installed in wet or damp locations shall be installed so that water cannot enter or accumulate in wiring compartments, lampholders or other electrical parts. All luminaires installed in wet locations shall be marked SUITABLE FOR WET LOCATIONS. All luminaires installed in damp locations shall be marked SUITABLE FOR WET LOCATIONS or SUITABLE FOR DAMP LOCATIONS.

E3903.9 Lampholders in wet or damp locations. Lampholders installed in wet or damp locations shall be of the weatherproof type.

E3903.10 Bathtub and shower areas. Cord-connected luminaires, chain-, cable-, or cord-suspended-luminaires, lighting track, pendants, and ceiling-suspended (paddle) fans shall not have any parts located within a zone measured 3 feet (914 mm) horizontally and 8 feet (2438 mm) vertically from the top of a bathtub rim or shower stall threshold. This zone is all encompassing and includes the zone directly over the tub or shower. Luminaires located in this zone shall be listed for damp locations and where subject to shower spray, shall be listed for wet locations.

These sections were moved in 2009 (based on NFPA 70-2008) to E4003.9-11 respectively. E4003.11 was revised to read:

E4003.11 Bathtub and shower areas. Cord-connected luminaires, chain-, cable-, or cord-suspended-luminaires, lighting track, pendants, and ceiling-suspended (paddle) fans shall not have any parts located within a zone measured 3 feet (914 mm) horizontally and 8 feet (2438 mm) vertically from the top of a bathtub rim or shower stall threshold. This zone is all encompassing and includes the space directly over the tub or shower. Luminaires within the actual outside dimension of the bathtub or shower to a height of 8 feet (2438 mm) vertically
from the top of the bathtub rim or shower threshold shall be marked for damp locations and where subject to shower spray, shall be marked for wet locations.

The bottom line is that the devices and luminaires must be "listed" and "labeled" for the location.

[tjbnwi]

Here is the link to the Fort Worth amendments to the electrical code;

http://www.fortworthgov.org/uploaded...n/2008_NEC.pdf

I did not read it all but you must make sure you are compliant to these amendments.

Tom

[Slaughter Construction Co]

Tom and Roger. Thanks for your help. I really appreciate it. Bruce

[Tom Bainbridge]

some codes

strictly speaking explanations of our building regs and electrical regs have graphical charts of distances between objects to make things easy to understand

for instance between for instance showers and light fittings, shaver sockets and basins