Question for mr Zipwall

[Lettusbee67]

Hello,
Despite my complaining in the previous post about feasibility of compliance with the new rules, as a company, we are committed to compliance. I was wondering if the folks at zipwall had any suggestions for two of our projects that may be impacted by the new ruling. I bid these projects last week, and don't know yet if I will get the work, but they are representative of the challenges we will face under the RRP Ruling.

Blue house pic: Remove siding at gable ends. Best Idea for tenting that I've come up with: 4x4 pump jack poles fastened to roof covered with ripstop poly. Glad this is a ranch house.

Apartment pic: Replace 1350 Sliding glass doors and windows. These are full frame replacements, involving trim removal in a stucco sided building with a Mansard Roof. I haven't come up with a great idea for this one. Tent the whole face of the building? Tent one stack of units at a time. How to attach top of tenting to top of building. Zipwall: are you guys coming up with solutions for these dilemmas?

Thanks for stepping up in a public forum.
David Franklin
Legacy Custom Builders
Fort Collins, CO

[FixerDad43]

The first thing I would do is test for lead. No lead, no problem. Both of these jobs look "young" enough that there may not be lead present. The older the house, the more likely it's there.

[Lettusbee67]

This I realize, however, these projects are representative of the work we do.
The blue house was actually built in 1950. The T-111 is applied over the original siding. The gable siding is original. Testing is a condition of wether or not we actually get the project.

The apartments were built from '73-'77. It is unlikely that the builder opted for the more expensive lead paint on this project. However, the owner will have every building tested by a testing company, to the cost of $4000.00 They aren't going to pay for that testing until they have to.

Again, I am asking for ideas on how to deal with these types of situations, as it will have to be dealt with soon, with the type of work that we do.

Thanks

[GaryJR]

Lettusbee,

If Zipwall gives you a set plan on how to attack your problem using their product then they put themselves in the liability loop.

I would think Zipwall would need to be very careful in their marketing of their product when it comes to lead. If they make it out to be the panacea for lead dust containment they put themselves in a bad position.

Personally, if I was Zipwall, I would not even mention lead in my advertisement. But companies feed off stuff like and all they see are dollar signs.

[Overbuilders]

But companies feed off stuff like and all they see are dollar signs.

Much like everyone using 'green' in their advertising.

[MarkMc]

Much like everyone using 'green' in their advertising.

Have you ever considered getting certified as a Super-Naturalist, I hear the 4th Earl Society can confer and bestow such, from great distances at that, printed on a nice simple compliment to red foil certificate.

[Overbuilders]

Have you ever considered getting certified as a Super-Naturalist...

As a matter of fact, no, not ever.

[MarkMc]

Aye, but with St Paddy's almost here, think of the co-coloring potential. One has to reach out for the green and gold.

[davenorthup]

David - I have only used a Zip wall for interior applications. Both of your jobs would not really be suitable for a Zip wall since the zip wall is designed to hold plastic against an interior ceiling. That is not to say that they are not developing products to aid in exterior tenting applications.

In both photos posted; from my knowledge, tenting is not required 100% of the time under the RRP rules as described to me in my class.

[Lettusbee67]

I am hoping zipwall, or somebody, is going to come up with a great tenting solution for exteriors. It will be necessary at some point, for the work we do.

Based on the class I took, tenting is not necessary, unless conditions warrant, i.e. prevailing winds blowing dust into/onto neighboring property. Somebody will get rich if they come up with a convenient system to make it happen. I'm picturing a spring loaded pole structure similar to camping tents, only intended to go straight up, then over 5-6 feet to roof or gutter or fascia.

The apartment I showed in the photos, will not be possible to comply by simply laying down sheeting flat on the ground, as space will not allow that separation distance. I see tenting as our only option there. Would be nice if I was wrong though.

[Unforgiven]

Call the termite man and get a tent sent out. Probably what our industry will devolve to.

[Zipwall Team]

Thanks for the question David. We currently concentrate our designs on interior applications.

All… how is everyone dealing with exterior tenting and dust containment? Is this (or will it become) a common challenge you will need to tackle?

[greentree]

Take a lesson from cold weather masons/stucco guys who tent for heat, use your scaffold.

[bradham]

Using our scaffolding for now. Thinking about going back to the old days of making doubled up 2x4 pump jack poles using the top brace only, should be able to fasten some poly to that. Still have a couple of those around somewhere -

[Lettusbee67]

I've considered the scaffolding angle, but the challenge in that is, to be fully compliant, it will all have to be wiped down whiteglove spotless before you transport it to the next job site. Also, I don't own much scaffolding. That's gonna have to change soon, anyway though. Lord knows I've had enough practice tenting those things.