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03-24-2009, 02:36 PM #1
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Houston rocks...
It looks like Houston rocks for homebuilders! I subscribe to a newsletter from John Burns, one of preimminent housing analysts in the U.S. In his latest report Houston is the best market by far in the U.S. for single family homebuilders based on permits for the trailing twelve months. Here are the top five markets:
Houston--27,109
Phoenix--11,888
Houston--11,517
Atlanta--11,240
Charlotte--7,167
Comparing the market today to its peak, Houston is holding it own there as well. Looking at what were some of the hottest markets here is where the current permits are for the trailing twelve months, including multi-family, compared to the peak:
Houston 56%
Dallas 34%
Las Vegas 32%
Phoenix 25%
Atlanta 23%
Riverside/San Benardino 15%
Miami 13%
San Diego 11%
Of course, employment is a huge driver of the Houston housing market. Of the 30 largest metro areas Houston has seen the smallest increase in unemployment over the last four years.
-Alex
P.S.: Allan, I apologize in advance if anyone gives you a hard time about this. I know that you've worked your a*# off and your efforts are the primary reason for your success.Last edited by Alex_Saloutos; 03-24-2009 at 02:38 PM.
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03-24-2009, 05:20 PM #2
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You must be talking about a Houston I'm not aware of. Of course it is like a small state, I read that metro Houston has 5.6 million people, more than 27 states. I do track sales of new homes over 1.5 million, and since last Sept 15 sales have plummeted. We had Ike in September, then the financial meltdown began in October, then the energy sector contraction started in December. I am starting to see a few houses drop in price. And land prices have subsided, if not decreased 5-10%.
The small, cheap stuff out in the sticks may be selling, I really don't track the cheap stuff nor do I keep up with multi-family.
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03-24-2009, 07:56 PM #3
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I read in the Economist that Houston, Austin, Dallas, San Antonio and Fort Worth were rated the best for construction employment numbers in the nation by BUILDER magazine.
I do not know the exact parameters of what the "best" is; but that is what it said.
I just left Austin yesterday and that place looks like a mini boom town still.
It does seem Texas is fairing better than other areas; especially in lower foreclosure rates and employment; besting national averages in both.
I guess Texans should expect company? I have seen Seattlites (may have just created a new word?) hit AK in search of work as AK is also fairing better than most; but on a much smaller scale.Last edited by davenorthup; 03-24-2009 at 09:42 PM.
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03-24-2009, 08:55 PM #4
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Its amazing what low taxes will do for an economy...
Dont mention that to anyone in california as we still have our head to far up our as### to do anything that makes sense.
I actually am starting a small business and I am seriously considering relocating my business to texas because of the business friendly environment. I just cant do it her in california as we get dinged coming and going: a sales tax, income tax and tons of fees piled on just for the privelege of living 500 miles from hollywood!
Did anyone catch the 60 minutes peice on housten over the weekend? it was interesting to say the least, they just neglected to talk about why businesses move there (the very reasons I stated above)."any society that puts equality ahead of freedom will end up with neither. But the society that puts freedom before equality will end up with both greater freedom and great equality. "
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03-24-2009, 09:36 PM #5
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Houston and Alaska thrive on oil, this from an Arkansas oil and mineral rights appraiser:
And California says no to Solar Farms in the desert.
Originally Posted by Terrel
Looks like we all better move to oil country."But one also finds in the human heart a depraved taste for equality, which impels the weak to want to bring the strong down to their level, and which reduces men to preferring equality in servitude to inequality in freedom"
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03-24-2009, 09:47 PM #6
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Texas also has the largest wind farm in the US as well. :)
Smartly playing both sides of the deck.
Quijas - Houston has the sales and income tax and can be fairly expensive for the region; but likely not the same "Hollywood tax". :)
You could try Amarillo or El Paso, however?Last edited by davenorthup; 03-24-2009 at 09:50 PM.
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03-24-2009, 10:17 PM #7
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Houston has a 8.25% sales tax (6.25% State, 1% City, 1% Metro). There is no State income tax in Texas. Schools, counties, and municipalities collect property taxes. There is also State franchise tax for corporations.
But seriously Dave, Amarillo or El Paso? Have you ever been to Amarillo or El Paso? I'd rather live in Dallas!!!Joe Adams
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03-24-2009, 10:33 PM #8
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03-24-2009, 11:03 PM #9
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Okay I feel better now but you forgot Slowdeatha (Odessa) and Wacko (Waco).
That's probably true but the cost of living in Houston is still more reasonable than other major cities. Texas is a big state and there are all kinds of people in all parts of the state. From dazzling urbanites to inbred troglodytes - every town has their share. However, only our capitol has a campaign to "Keep Austin Weird." www.keepaustinweird.comNo undoubtedly less expensive however... :)Joe Adams
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03-24-2009, 11:11 PM #10
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Never been to Odessa; but have driven through Waco a few times and never managed to get off the HWY (for good reason I suspect)... My wife did spend some time visiting family in Killeen - (close enough)?
Yeah - just spent 5 days at SXSW in Austin; granted many are temporary transplants like I was; but Austin is quite diverse - that is for certain. Not too many places where you see a guy with a mohawk and cowboy hat together dancing to the same music. :)Last edited by davenorthup; 03-24-2009 at 11:13 PM.
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