Need to find thread about door handtruck

[Robert Z]

Hello everyone,

I told a friend about the thread that was here at JLC some time back...someone posted a link and a video for a specialized door dolly that allowed the user to move large and heavy doors into and out of the jambs, through doorways, down the hall, etc. This piece of equipment had straps to secure the door and various cranks and so forth that allowed for the micro-adjustment of the door while setting it on the hinges or removing it.

After fighting with a huge and heavy door on Friday, my buddy is ready to buy this thing that I told him about last year, but now I can't find the thread. I've tried various searches for keywords and haven't come up with anything. I'm pretty sure it was here at JLC because I only visit JLC and John Bridge Ceramic Tile forum.

Thanks in advance for any help you might have helping me locate the name of the tool.

[David Meiland]

You must mean the "Doorminator":

http://www.amazon.com/TelPro-3070-Te.../dp/B00008URUV

[Robert Z]

I just found this on YouTube. With a name like "Doorminator", how could I have forgotten? :)

Thanks Dave.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zl5q...eature=related

[Mark G]

Here's another handy door tool: http://www.templaco.com/html/product.asp?id=253

Mine's enroute.

[smtitmas]

Marks door lift along with a shop made door dolly that can maneuver the doors in and out of rooms is all that is needed to hang even the heaviest and largest of door available. just position the dolly under the center of the door and you can wheel it around with very little effort.

[VTNorm]

Here's another lifter, I bought it at JLCLive a couple of years ago, works great and small enough to fit in my tool bag: http://www.duluthtrading.com/store/g...ture=Product_6

Mark G - The Templaco lifter is FREE if you buy $75 worth of stuff and enter promo code 8ENUJCL in the shopping cart.

-Norm

[dave_k]

How big are these doors? I'm looking at my norfield catalogue and they have a 4 wheeled cart fully adjustable cart called a "Door-jak" that will handle doors to 4' x 7' x 1.75 x 750lbs for $2915.00. There's something else called a transporter that handles doors up to 250 lbs that lists for $574. The dorminator will only handle doors up to 160 lb which is a waste of time in my opinion. If you need help swinging a 160 lb door you better hire a carpenter.

The hard part is getting the door standing. I'm getting a little old to to easily get a 10' 300 lb door vertical so I need a little help on the really big doors (don't forget that you NEVER carry all the weight of the door until it's vertical and then you move it by barely picking it up off the floor with your legs, you always pivot a door) but once it's vertical it's all tecnique. The fast macho way is to get the door vertical perpendicular to the hinge jamb, get the heel of the door just right then pivot the door on the toe so a hinge lines up with a mortise then put a single screw in it but not so tight that it won't pivot. Then you pull the door up and out and the next hinge down will pop into place. Get 4 screws in those first 2 hinges and you are off to the races.

The wimpy and somewhat slower way is to put a piece of 1/2" or 3/4" pipe under the door so you can roll it then it's the same procedure as above

[Charlie Mitchell]

At the Long Beach JLC Show, Al showed a device that was like the drawing above but was made of metal with two wheels. Gary comment was he or his brother had a like device. This would allow moving door but would not raise or lift it on the hinges.
Charlie

[CraftsmanCollective]

I love this little gem by Trojan Manufacturing. Actually I love all thier stuff...

http://www.trojantools.com/product-display.php?id=22

[hdrider_chgo]

I love this little gem by Trojan Manufacturing. Actually I love all thier stuff...

http://www.trojantools.com/product-display.php?id=22

Yeah, that's a version of a basic door dolly, ubiquitous on commercial sites. What they are showing in the picture is going to scratch the door. All ours are lined with carpet.

I've never seen a "dorminator" or any type of rig, and we hang some pretty big doors. The last job we had 4/0 x 10/0 x 2-1/4 solid core. Although usually doors that big are swung on pivots not butts. I remember we did some 4" thick doors made of corian last year.

We generally use two guys to swing doors because it seems more efficient, and safer. Not because of lifting, like Dave says you are never actually lifting the door, but balance can be an issue balancing a door with one hand and working the screw gun with the other. And pivots are pretty tough to do alone. But as Dave says, one guy can handle most stuff using good technique.

If you showed up with a "Dorminator" for a 160 lb. door around here, you'd be laughed off the job.

[Jon Blakemore]

I remember we did some 4" thick doors made of corian last year.

What was that for?

[dave_k]

This is my door dollie. It is designed so a 4' door is self supporting in it and the center of gravity is between the wheels. The door rests on the upright arm. There is usually a piece of carpet glued on up there but it occasionally gets torn off and has to be replaced (as it does in this picture) When you have a door up to 4' wide in it you don't need to balance it. I've moved 4/0 x 8/0 steel stiffened and lead lined doors over gravel subgrades prior to SOG, 2x4's, block rubble, piles of garbage controlling it perfectly balanced with one hand. This is the third one I've made for myself. The first one got stolen and I have another one with 10" solid rubber wheels that works well in finished spaces. The dollie pictured is the one I use to hang the exterior doors on commercial buildings which go in at an early stage of construction hence the all terrain 12" pneumatic wheels that roll over nearly anything. Drywallers like them so I've made some for local drywallers. You can load it up with up to 5 sheets of plywood and move them through the site with one hand.

[hdrider_chgo]

What was that for?

The corian door detail was (is) a concealed door in a bank lobby. It's hidden in a wall that's entirely paneled in corian. (It looks like some type of cut stone- very nice). The door opens to allow a series of sliding glass panels to be slid out and wall off most of the lobby after hours, but still allow the public to access the ATMs in one corner of the lobby.

[whiskytangofoxtrot]

I've moved 4/0 x 8/0 steel stiffened and lead lined doors over gravel subgrades prior to SOG, 2x4's, block rubble, piles of garbage controlling it perfectly balanced with one hand.

*shudders* at the thought of ever schlepping around another lead-lined laminated radiology door ever again.

My door dollie was similar to Sean Tit's but looked "wider" instead of longer. Scrap SC door pieces cut into modified triangles and covered w/ scrap carpet, attached to a 5/4 X 2" piece of oak about 16" long. There was just enough deflection in the hardwood to "pinch" the door securely and hold it up steady for hinge mortising or whatever. We usually used hard rubber lawn mower tires run on 6" lag screws, but if needed we could swap out pneumatic tires.