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    Default Coffered Ceiling Materials ??????

    Hello to all !

    I'm finally getting a chance to install a coffered ceiling using the method Gary uses. I've read all of the articles and have Gary's book. But if people reading this forum who have completed coffered ceilings could talk more about the materials they used for the backing and the beams. Gary recommends finger jointed pine/jamb material fro the hollow backing and mdf for the beams. I'm having difficulty finding mdf in plank form where I live(and i don't want to rip down loads of tall baseboard). The beams are going to be six inches wide, are there any other suitable light weight stable material you can use?.


    THANKS

    brian
    Last edited by BOSCO1970; 03-07-2008 at 06:29 AM.

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    ... very nice...
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    I used finger jointed pine (pre-primed) for both Beams and backing. Used 1x6 material in 16' lengths and just cut to fit.

    I allowed material to acclimate for a week, then used plenty of glue for all the joints. Job came out excellent.

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    j,
    yes it looks fantastic, does it have to be pre primed for the hollow backing?,

    thanks
    brian

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    Last edited by BOSCO1970; 03-07-2008 at 04:05 PM.

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    I am in the process of doing a library right now and just finished the coffer ceiling.

    I did it a little different than Gary shows in his book, but he was HUGE help with the process and credit a lot of it to him.

    I did the braces like he shows, but then used 3/4" ply for the sides and beam bottoms. I assembled the beam sides on the floor, then lifted them up and nailed them. I then used cap moulding to cover the ply edges. Then used 4 /14" cron in side.

    I must say I was really blessed through the whole process. All of the snap lines might work out ok, and all of the braces might looked lined up, but you really won't know until you get the beams together and installed. The house is from the late 1800's and the room I did it in was a polygon, and one wall was sloped 45 degrees about 24" from the ceiling, which I then had to cover with the perimeter coffer.

    This was the first time I had done one, but I did not do this alone, the Lord was with me.

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    It is all done out of walnut ply and walnut solid wood.
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    kevin,
    looks like a a high end job, can't wait to get one of these babies under my belt.
    brian

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    I usually use veneer core plywood for backer, cheapest 'finish' plywood I can find. This ceiling was 3/4 Poplar, the crown was FJ Poplar, and the bolection molding was poplar.
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    Tischler,
    Again Looks Fantastic, You Guys Are Excellent Craftsman, I Will Aspire To Live Up To These Creations.
    Again Keep Posting More Info On Useful Techniques, Do'd And Don't All Advice Is Helpful And Greatly Appreciated.
    Brian

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    Bosco-

    I used GK's method and employed MDF for beam sides and bottom. The method was awesome, made great time. Would problably not use MDF for the Beam bottom again unless cost mandated: When the light hits it I can see my nailing pattern slightly puckering out on the beam bottom. MDF is so dense that when you nail the end grain the material displaced by the nail has nowhere to go but out.

    That being said, I also wouldn't want to use cheap finger-joint, because it is never straight and would make installation a fight. Windsor one would be ideal for this application

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOSCO1970 View Post
    Tischler,
    Again Looks Fantastic, You Guys Are Excellent Craftsman, I Will Aspire To Live Up To These Creations.
    Again Keep Posting More Info On Useful Techniques, Do'd And Don't All Advice Is Helpful And Greatly Appreciated.
    Brian

    Come On The Irish!!!!!!!!

    I can't speak for the other guys, but the Lord was really with me when I did this. This is the first one I have ever done and am still amazed how it came out. I wouldn't call myself an "excellent craftsman," I still have a lot to learn.
    Kevin


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    Default Re: Coffered Ceiling Materials ??????

    Not sure what the Katz method is, but on paint grade, I usually rip 2x to the appropriate width of the beams, GRKem (double layers) to the ceilng, then bevel cut all my MDF and glue up hinging with tape, then cross shoot with brads every 4" or so, let dry then trim and lift into position. I shoot the laser around the room first and make reference lines, (cheated where needed to make the final look right) and I short the beams height accordingly to the lowest part of the ceiling leaving gaps at the higher part of the ceiling. The gaps are then covered wth crown.


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    Just so you know how popular Gary is up here in Canada his book sells for $146.60 USED at Amazon.ca.... and they go up. http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listin...070134&sr=8-25

    You have to wounder sometimes... I can't get a full quote on the Reassaue (SP is wrong I know) table and outfeed. OK I'm finished complaining... for now... wait till I go and dig out my car & truck... LOL

    One day I want to do a coffered ceiling I hope when I do it keeps up to not only my standards but all of yours.

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    Default Re: Coffered Ceiling Materials ??????

    Quote Originally Posted by texastutt
    Just so you know how popular Gary is up here in Canada his book sells for $146.60 USED at Amazon.ca.... and they go up. http://www.amazon.ca/gp/offer-listin...070134&sr=8-25
    Damn, TT! That is plain old crazy! Are you sure the price doesn't include being delivered by Gary himself, and he gives you a 2 hour personal, one on one training session? :)
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    Quote Originally Posted by texastutt View Post
    Just so you know how popular Gary is up here in Canada his book sells for $146.60 USED at Amazon.ca.... and they go up.
    I'll be back shortly - when I return, the beer's on me. (Heads for the border with a passport in one hand & a stack of Gary's books in the other)...
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