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  • #91
    Re: Looking for advice on spray finishing equipment & system

    Great thanks for the tips! I was looking at a titan 6 stage! for $1400 out of my budget but seems like that would work well and maybe worth saving up the extra bucks for it. http://www.paintsprayersplus.com/pro...t-Sprayer.html
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    • #92
      Re: Looking for advice on spray finishing equipment & system

      I prefer a gravity gun to a cup gun. I feel they feed smoother. Never used that system, you will still need the thin the latex.

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      • #93
        Re: Looking for advice on spray finishing equipment & system

        I have used both just a little bit and liked the gravity better as well. Ill go with a PPS system for sure. This has been a great thread and really turned out some usefull info!
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        • #94
          Re: Looking for advice on spray finishing equipment & system

          An accessory that everyone should have, makes filling the cup easier and no product that is to be sprayed should go in unstrained. I did have to modify the stand to work with the Fugi gun due to the offset.

          http://www.eastwood.com/paint-gun-accessory-kit.html

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          • #95
            Re: Looking for advice on spray finishing equipment & system

            ive been using Apollo a bit pricey it is all stainless steel. I only use waterborne finishes with it and I clean it at the kitchen sink. I just run warm water through it and blow it out (with my mouth). About once a year, I disassemble it and clean it real well with a paint remover type product.
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            • #96
              Re: Looking for advice on spray finishing equipment & system

              I have the Titan Capspray 105 and have had good results.(getting better every built in). I perfer spraying oil base but laquers spray well also. Latex enamel has been hit/miss but I'm improving all the time. My next purchase will be a pressure pot add on for the turbine so I can work longer between mixes and not have a cup in my way.

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              • #97
                Re: Looking for advice on spray finishing equipment & system

                I'll chime in. I use a simple Porter Cable gravity feed. I looked into a nice German gun before, forget the manufacturer. After talking to the automotive guys, they said it would be a waste because 90% of my spraying is water based poly. I'd love to try a high dollar one to compare but have to admit, I get super flat, perfect finish with this thing...maybe I'm just used to it?

                The booth makes all the difference in my opinion....and of course temperature. What's very nice about the booth is it captures lots of the particulates before exhausting. This is a pretty basic set up compared to others I'm sure, but it handles tons of work for us.
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                • #98
                  Re: Looking for advice on spray finishing equipment & system

                  Originally posted by Shawn Prentice View Post
                  Yes Mike, it is quite a time saver to spray. I try to finish everything I can with a gun in my shop. I like the water reduced poly, typically SW, because I can also do brushing in the field as necessary.
                  This a great point. My advice to those setting up or revamping the finishing component of their shop is to find one machine that covers most eventualities. I like aaa with an hvlp rig for smaller one offs.

                  We just completed finishing on a kitchen in our shop. 11 boxes. Spraying is such an amazing efficiency/quality gain but sometimes gets so techie that some of the practical functionality is lost.

                  In other words, woodworkers sometimes get caught up in finding a finishing system with a reasonable initial investment, but then have to spend so much time in research/modification/trial and error mode that the appeal of that value begins to decline.

                  Same on the product side. There are so many wb solutions these days, but if your shop is built around a setup that doesn't move wb that well, you begin to get left behind.

                  The way to look at it is that the sprayer and product are the gears that drive your finishing. Your shop set up, the flow of pieces from prep stage to clean, spray, cure and ship are the system that you are asking the sprayer and product to perform within.

                  The least amount of time you have to spend in equipment/finish tweak mode, the more profitable you are. Constructing things out of wood is where most of your time is best spent. For most woodworkers I know, finishing is an unnecessary evil. I know a few cabinet guys who are highly competent finishers, and they still view it that way. The key is, as above, having a system in place that goes beyond a cost effective hvlp.

                  I agree with Shawn that having a system that also converts to touchup efficiency in the field is key.

                  In fact, alot of our finishing of cabinets is done to get the maximum gain in initial coating quality and efficiency, but geared specifically to the reality that a final manual face-off in the field is best for integration into the trim package. At that point, product is the driver. The shop pre finish doesn't always end up as a stand alone.
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                  • #99
                    Re: Looking for advice on spray finishing equipment & system

                    I have had my 3M PPS system for just over a year now and I had sprayed a bunch with it.I got the quart size kit with the gun and a couple extra tips from homestead.I have been very happy with it.It is simple to use,simple to clean up and simple to adjust the spray pattern and material volume.The only thing i dont like about it is stopping to refill the cup as others have mentioned.There is a similar product made by DeVilbiss called the dekup system and it is supposed to be a little cheaper.If you are looking at PPS you might check it out.http://www.eastwood.com/paint-equipm...ss-dekups.html
                    Jeff Jackson

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                    • Originally posted by hdrider_chgo View Post
                      With work slowing down again, I anticipate doing some smaller side projects that will require finishing. In the past, I subbed out furniture-grade finish work to a pro finisher because my own results have been mediocre, and my time expended on it was unproductive. But with more time on my hands, I may play with it some more.

                      I have not sprayed before, and I'm looking into spray equipment and a finishing system (system being a line of finishing material, stain, lacquer, toners, etc.), that can give me furniture-grade results with the least learning curve.

                      The millwork shops I have worked for in our area use solvent-based lacquer or conversion-varnish, with Mohawk being the most popular. However, I am hoping to find a water-based system that can give similar results. I do not have access to a spray booth.

                      I will be doing a very small volume, so the cost of the finish material is negligible. Likewise, the spray equipment should be geared to doing very small runs, and will never see any significant volume as long as I own it. On the other hand, again, anything to reduce problems or learning curve for me would be worth spending more money on.

                      I would like to be able to spray stain, topcoat, colored lacquer, with latex paint being a bonus, but not essential.

                      All thoughts or advice appreciated.
                      You can try Wagner Control HVLP spray gun for everything. My friend suggest this one. After using this one, I really very happy. It comes with metal cup for better finishing. You can also control the flow of paint according yo
                      Whether you are a hobbyist or professional painter, check these best HVLP spray gun reviews for woodworking to have top finished paint with minimal efforts.

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