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    I have to put in an alum. attic pull down ladder. I have done many but with helpers.

    Is it possible to install one by myself? any tips? I usually install 2 1x4 accross opening and then the guy in the attic drops it in and then the outside guy removes the 1x and done.

    thanks for any tips. if there are any

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  • #2
    Re: installing an attic ladder solo help

    For what it's worth , I've always installed them alone. I remove the springs and 2 lower sections,total of 6 bolts, set the frame assembly with the upper section and panel,( the panel hangs down so you can work the complete opening off a ladder, reinstall the lower section, cut to fit, hook spring to arms and anchorpoint then pull down arm and reinstall bolt. Never liked the "mousetrap" condition with pulling down the complete unit balanced on 2 - 1/2" ledges.
    SteveC
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    • #3
      Re: installing an attic ladder solo help

      stevec,

      thanks for the info, I will give it a shot. 1 quick questions are the springs had to hook back up?
      Kreg
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      • #4
        Re: installing an attic ladder solo help

        Good question and good answer. I would never have thought of that, always had to have a helper.
        "We do not see things as they are; we see things as we are" -Talmud

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        • #5
          Re: installing an attic ladder solo help

          The springs aren't bad.- I'm 6'3' 285 though ;) - Really they are not, just have the attaching bolt ready and stand on the stairs. The lift arms give you the leverage.
          SteveC
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          PS make sure you check ALL the bolts even the one's you didn't touch
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          • #6
            Re: installing an attic ladder solo help

            I install them alone. It doesn't take alot of muscle as I'm 5'10" and weigh 155. I first install the casing on the unit while its on the floor. The casing will serve as the supports. I lay my nail gun on top of the ladder. I pick up the unit. Hoist it over my head. Take the first step up the ladder. Shove the unit into the hole making sure I don't push too hard and break the trim off. While holding the unit in the hole I climb onto the second step. I then hold the unit secure in the hole with one arm and my head. Reach down grab my gun and start shooting. Climb down, move ladder, open unit, put ladder back in place, install screw and shims. This is on an eight foot ceiling height. I usaully cut the legs before install since I've done this hundreds of times and know the length.
            This method works also on varying heights. Just usually can't precut the legs.

            One note. Always check the rough opening before you attemp to install this way. Its no fun trying to get back down a ladder after hoisting one up for a ten foot ceinling in a garage. (don't ask me how I know)

            Two note. Don't shoot near the corner if joist hangers were used (again, don't ask)

            If you use this method you'll never do it the other way again. Much easier and faster.

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            • #7
              Re: installing an attic ladder solo help

              Kreg,

              I actually had bad springs on the last attic ladder I did so we had to take them off and reattach the new heavier springs they sent us. There was a trick the rep told me on the phone about installing them that made it ridiculously easy. You didn't even had to pretension them.

              Now, I can't remember it! Sorry!
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              • #8
                Re: installing an attic ladder solo help

                Greg,

                That's okay, its sorta like I have a girl that really want's to be with you, but I can't remember her phone #......LLOOLL

                Thanks again everybody for info, I will post tommorrow with results.
                Kreg
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                • #9
                  Re: installing an attic ladder solo help

                  I set the ladder across the opening in the attic fully assembled. Then I put 1x supports across the opening fastening where the casing will cover later. Then rotate the stairs while reaching through opening and drop inside. Check that it is level and spaced evening then go up inside via the regular crawl space opening and attach.

                  I have heard about adding 4 angle brackets to the top of the stair frame and then using them as temp holders which allows you to drop it in and then pull it open and fasten from below, but I have't tried that myself yet.

                  Kirk

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                  • #10
                    Re: installing an attic ladder solo help

                    Just got back in from doing the job. I ended up nailing on the trim and then putting in and nail the trim off.. then open and finish.

                    It took longer because I had to reframe the opening and move a ceiling light about 2' over. but charged extra. so it made for a nice sat and some bucks 300.00 to be exact. plus materials. now its raining and cold so I guess I will watch all the this old houses shows I have tivo'd this week.

                    thanks again for your advice.
                    Kreg
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